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@sky @polaris
po vama stručnjacima samo su pare problem i ništa više, znači bush je u biti najavio 2006 da će do2020 skupljat pare i onda se zaletit do gore to mi želite reći
možda su otvorili neku liniju ili račun za dobrotvorne priloge, rado bi ih i ja pogurao s nekom markom
ne sumnjam u vaše poznavanje materije ali argumenti su vam smješni
btv
što je nike već rekao, ne samo coca cola već stotine drugih firmi bi dalo pare za taj uvijek aktuelni projekat, i ovako daju za neke glupe kampanje koje nisu medijski ni blizu kao odlazak na mjesec

Stotine drugih firmi bi dalo novac za reklamu kad bi neko na Mjesecu kupovao njihove proizvode. Zasto potrositi na Mjesecu nekoliko desetina milijardi dolara kad na Zemlji mozes potrositi 10 milijardi?

@sky @polaris
po vama stručnjacima samo su pare problem i ništa više, znači bush je u biti najavio 2006 da će do2020 skupljat pare i onda se zaletit do gore to mi želite reći
možda su otvorili neku liniju ili račun za dobrotvorne priloge, rado bi ih i ja pogurao s nekom markom
ne sumnjam u vaše poznavanje materije ali argumenti su vam smješni
btv
što je nike već rekao, ne samo coca cola već stotine drugih firmi bi dalo pare za taj uvijek aktuelni projekat, i ovako daju za neke glupe kampanje koje nisu medijski ni blizu kao odlazak na mjesec

Ne bih znao kasti

Који су твоји аргументи? Чуо си да је неко рекао да би то могла бити лаж, па си повјеровао?

Нису само паре проблем, Мјесец као објекат истраживања је "застарио", нема разлога да се иде горе и да се понавља ствар која је шест пута направљена(откриће воде за коју се сматра да постоји горе би могла поново "оживјети" Мјесец). Следећа станица је Марс, и то ће се сигурно догодити за нашег живота(осим ако ниси стари деда ).

ja nemam argumenata, niti sam bilo šta čuo ni gledao niti išta tvrdim, neka pitanja mi se sama od sebe nameću, i ja razmišljam na glas ne bi li čuo neki odgovor i to je sve.
odgovori koje čujem su mi prilično neuvjerljivi i neargumentovani, kao i ovaj da je projekat zastario i da je slijedeća stanica mars.
kad je zastario zašto ga bush vraća na tapet sa rokom 2020, i ako je slijedeća stanica mars, zar ne bi mjesec bio logičan izbor kao poligon za ispitivanje ljudi, opreme, vježbamje astronauta, i ostale tehničke pripreme ili kako se to već zove

Splash! NASA moon crash struck lots of water
By ALICIA CHANG (AP) – 45 minutes ago
LOS ANGELES — The lunar dud for space enthusiasts has become a watershed event for NASA.
Spacecraft that crashed into the moon last month kicked up a relatively small plume. But scientists have confirmed the debris contained water — 25 gallons of it — making lunar exploration exciting again.
Experts have long suspected there was water on the moon. So the thrilling discovery announced Friday sent a ripple of hope for a future astronaut outpost in a place that has always seemed barren and inhospitable.
"We found water. And we didn't find just a little bit. We found a significant amount," Anthony Colaprete, lead scientist for the mission, told reporters as he held up a white water bucket for emphasis.
He said the 25 gallons of water the lunar crash kicked up was only what scientists could see from the plumes of the impact.
Some space policy experts say that makes the moon attractive for exploration again. Having an abundance of water would make it easier to set up a base camp for astronauts, supplying drinking water and a key ingredient for rocket fuel.
"Having definitive evidence that there is substantial water is a significant step forward in making the moon an interesting place to go," said George Washington University space policy scholar John Logsdon.
The October mission involved two strikes into a permanently shadowed crater near the south pole. First, an empty rocket hull slammed into the Cabeus crater. Then, a trailing spacecraft recorded the drama live before it also crashed into the same spot four minutes later.
Though scientists were overjoyed with the plethora of data beamed back to Earth, the mission was a public relations dud. Space enthusiasts who stayed up all night to watch the spectacle did not see the promised giant plume of debris.
NASA scientists had predicted the twin impacts would spew six miles of dust into the sunlight. Instead, images revealed only a mile-high plume, and it was not visible to many amateur astronomers peering through telescopes.
Members of the blue-ribbon panel reviewing NASA's future plans said the discovery doesn't change their conclusion that the program needs more money to get beyond near-Earth orbit. The panel wants NASA to look at other potential destinations like asteroids and Mars.
"This new and terrific result reassures us about lunar resources, but ... the challenges currently facing the human spaceflight program remain," Chris Chyba, a Princeton astrophysicist who is on the panel, said in an e-mail.
President George W. Bush had proposed a more than $100 billion plan to return astronauts to the moon, then go on to Mars; a test flight of an early version of a new rocket was a success last month. President Barack Obama appointed the special panel to look at the entire moon exploration program. The decision is now up to the White House, and NASA's lunar plans are somewhat on hold until then.
As for unmanned exploration, previous missions had detected the presence of hydrogen in lunar craters near the moon's poles, possible evidence of ice. In September, scientists reported finding tiny amounts of water in the lunar soil all over the moon's surface.
But it was NASA's Oct. 9 mission involving the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite, LCROSS, that provided the stunning confirmation announced Friday — water, in the forms of ice and vapor.
"Rather than a dead and unchanging world, it could in fact be a very dynamic and interesting one," said Greg Delory of the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the mission, led by NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View, Calif.
The LCROSS spacecraft only hit one spot on the moon and it's unclear how much water there is across the entire moon.
Scientists spent a month analyzing data from the spacecraft's spectrometers, instruments that can detect strong signals of water molecules in the plume.
"We've had hints that there is water. This was almost like tasting it," said Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown University and a co-investigator on the LCROSS mission.
Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, who in 1969 made his historic Apollo 11 moonwalk with Neil Armstrong, was pleased to hear the latest discovery, but still believes the U.S. should focus on colonizing Mars.
"People will overreact to this news and say, `Let's have a water rush to the moon,'" Aldrin said. "It doesn't justify that."
Mission scientists said it would take more time to tease out what else was kicked up in the moon dust.

Pa ti zaobidji raspravu ili ubedi ljude dokazima da je to tako... sta je problem sto covek spori ovu pricu, zato je i postavljena

edit: i da, smeta mi sto moderator dopusta ovakve teme.

Zasto da zaobilazi raspravu kada samo demantuje ono sto je onaj neznalica napisao. Kao sto je demantovo tebe kada si rekao da Mjesec nema gravitaciju i to da je Apolo 11 bio jedina misija na Mjesecu.
Ako neko vec zeli da nesto demantuje, onda bi bio pozeljan bar minimum poznavanja materije, a ne naglabanje o tome kako prica o slijetanju pada u vodu jer koka kola nije nesto finansirala. Stvarno jedan od bisera foruma.
Ne znam da li u krugu 500 km ima ijedan teleskop koji moze uopste da prikaze povrsinu mjeseca donekle priblizeno i sada na tome da se zasniva nekakva kampanja nekakve korporacije.

Kim, taj tvoj nastup "vi nemate argumente, vi nista ne znate", koji koristis i na drugim pdf. ti je stvarno glup. Ako neko negdje govori sa argumentima onda je to uglavnom ovdje. Ljudi koje prozivas znaju o astronomji vise nego nas 10 ovdje.



Meni ne, ali mi malo smeta sto podrzava ove koka kola price

Kim, taj tvoj nastup "vi nemate argumente, vi nista ne znate", koji koristis i na drugim pdf. ti je stvarno glup. Ako neko negdje govori sa argumentima onda je to uglavnom ovdje. Ljudi koje prozivas znaju o astronomji vise nego nas 10 ovdje.



Meni ne, ali mi malo smeta sto podrzava ove koka kola price

pročitaj moje postove na ovoj temi nigdje nisam rekao da neko ne poznaje materiju ili da ništa ne zna samo sam postavio par dilema i možda se malo našalio i to je sve. a kad dobijem odgovor čij me sadržaj ne impresionira i ne odgovori argumentima na postavljenu dilemu to i kažem.
ti si očito stekao neko predubjeđenje o meni i to me se ne tiče

@sky ono je novijeg datuma koliko mi se čini, i to je kao članak nekog novinara koji u kontekstu ove priče ne znači ništa, a bush je plan aktivirao2006.
i da dodam ne mora niko ni stavit reklamu na mjesec dovoljno je bit sponzor pa da kompanija ima publicitet, a da ne govorim o autentičnim snimcima koji bi se gore snimili na kojim bi se istakli sponzori i još mnoge mogućnost današnje tehnologije koje pružaju pogled na mjesec putem interneta

Pokazi mi teleskop kojim cu sa balkona pratiti sledece sletanje, molim te.
Ako mislis na mene kad pominjes marketing... hm... izgleda da stvarno nisam nista naucio...
Sad sam zabrinut Kako da kazem sefu da nemam pojma

E moja Severnjaco tesko ces ti nekoga ovde izvesti na pravi put