spavac je napisao:
u svim ovim sistemima imas negativnosti. doktori daju zakletvu da ce se boriti za covjeka a zabore makaze, gaze i ostale spravice negdje u pacijentovim stomacima. ili traze prvo lovu, pa tek onda pacijent moze na sto. sta bi sa zakletvom. toliko droge ima na ulici da je policija nece ocistiti jos ni za 100 god. razlog, zasto sto je i sami distribuiraju. politicari kake na sve strane, samo te lazu, pred izbore ti daju i kucu svoju i auto, poslije izbora druga prica. kad zelis tako biti posten ili se smatras moralnijom osobom od nekoga ko je hriscanin sto onda placas taxu drzavi. samim tim ti finansiras lopovluk. ah da zaboravio sam skolstvo. zaposle pedofile, i poslije se pravdaju nisu znali. ili peru mozak djeci u skoli, sa glupom politikom i istorijimo. idi protestuj protiv davanja taxe. i ova prica opet svodi na onu, teorija u bilo kojem sistemu je jedno, dok je praksa sasvim drugo.
Da mi je znati šta si ti mislio reći gornjim tekstom... Ne vidim kako je bilo šta od toga agrument za religiju ili protiv ateizma...
Porez plaćam jer društvu treba društvena uprava. Ako mi nešto smeta, postoje demokratski mehanizmi da to promijenim.
Navedi primjer kad je pretjerana upotreba razuma dovela do nasilja, netrpeljivosti i dr. društvenih problema.
Iz "Pisma hrišćanskoj naciji" Sama Harrisa (ako neko ima volje neka provjeri podatke):
Citiraj:
While you believe that bringing an end to religion is an impossible goal, it is important to realize that much of the developed world has nearly accomplished it. Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark, and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on earth. According to the United Nations' Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate, and infant mortality. Insofar as there is a crime problem in Western Europe, it is largely the product of immigration. Seventy percent of the inmates of France's jails, for instance, are Muslim. The Muslims of Western Europe are generally not atheists. Conversely, the fifty nations now ranked lowest in terms of the United Nations' human development index are unwaveringly religious.
Other analyses paint the same picture: the United States is unique among wealthy democracies in its level of religious adherence; it is also uniquely beleaguered by high rates of homicide, abortion, teen pregnancy, sexually transmitted disease, and infant mortality. The same comparison holds true within the United States itself: Southern and Midwestern states, characterized by the highest levels of religious literalism, are especially plagued by the above indicators of societal dysfunction, while the comparatively secular states of the Northeast conform to European norms.
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