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Prica je toliko usijana da ne mogu apsolutno proci niti jedne vijesti a da ovo nije udarno.
Propaganda i mas mediji rade cuda.

Virus jeste specifican, prenosi se preko divljih ptica tj. one prvo obole, pa sa njih na domace ptice, zivinu, pa one obole, pa onda virus treba da mutira pa da onda predje na 1 covjeka pa onda opet da mutrira da bi presao sa covjeka na covjeka. Teorijski jednostavno zvuci a prakticno?! Hm! :roll: ....



Ne bih rekla da je ova sve bas propagadna i mislim da je mnogo ozbiljnije nego sto ti mislis. Pa zar divlje i domace ptice nisu vec obolile, zar virus vec nije mutirao i presao na 100 ljudi? Nije ovo samo teorija, sve se ovo upravo desava.

Evo malo sa WHO da ja ne pisem dalje:
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Do migratory birds spread highly pathogenic avian influenza viruses?
The role of migratory birds in the spread of highly pathogenic avian influenza is not fully understood. Wild waterfowl are considered the natural reservoir of all influenza A viruses. They have probably carried influenza viruses, with no apparent harm, for centuries. They are known to carry viruses of the H5 and H7 subtypes, but usually in the low pathogenic form. Considerable circumstantial evidence suggests that migratory birds can introduce low pathogenic H5 and H7 viruses to poultry flocks, which then mutate to the highly pathogenic form.

In the past, highly pathogenic viruses have been isolated from migratory birds on very rare occasions involving a few birds, usually found dead within the flight range of a poultry outbreak. This finding long suggested that wild waterfowl are not agents for the onward transmission of these viruses.

Recent events make it likely that some migratory birds are now directly spreading the H5N1 virus in its highly pathogenic form. Further spread to new areas is expected.

What is special about the current outbreaks in poultry?

The current outbreaks of highly pathogenic avian influenza, which began in South-east Asia in mid-2003, are the largest and most severe on record. Never before in the history of this disease have so many countries been simultaneously affected, resulting in the loss of so many birds.

The causative agent, the H5N1 virus, has proved to be especially tenacious. Despite the death or destruction of an estimated 150 million birds, the virus is now considered endemic in many parts of Indonesia and Viet Nam and in some parts of Cambodia, China, Thailand, and possibly also the Lao People’s Democratic Republic. Control of the disease in poultry is expected to take several years.

The H5N1 virus is also of particular concern for human health, as explained below.


What are the implications for human health?
The widespread persistence of H5N1 in poultry populations poses two main risks for human health.

The first is the risk of direct infection when the virus passes from poultry to humans, resulting in very severe disease. Of the few avian influenza viruses that have crossed the species barrier to infect humans, H5N1 has caused the largest number of cases of severe disease and death in humans. Unlike normal seasonal influenza, where infection causes only mild respiratory symptoms in most people, the disease caused by H5N1 follows an unusually aggressive clinical course, with rapid deterioration and high fatality. Primary viral pneumonia and multi-organ failure are common. In the present outbreak, more than half of those infected with the virus have died. Most cases have occurred in previously healthy children and young adults.

A second risk, of even greater concern, is that the virus – if given enough opportunities – will change into a form that is highly infectious for humans and spreads easily from person to person. Such a change could mark the start of a global outbreak (a pandemic).


How do people become infected?
Direct contact with infected poultry, or surfaces and objects contaminated by their faeces, is presently considered the main route of human infection. To date, most human cases have occurred in rural or periurban areas where many households keep small poultry flocks, which often roam freely, sometimes entering homes or sharing outdoor areas where children play. As infected birds shed large quantities of virus in their faeces, opportunities for exposure to infected droppings or to environments contaminated by the virus are abundant under such conditions. Moreover, because many households in Asia depend on poultry for income and food, many families sell or slaughter and consume birds when signs of illness appear in a flock, and this practice has proved difficult to change. Exposure is considered most likely during slaughter, defeathering, butchering, and preparation of poultry for cooking. There is no evidence that properly cooked poultry or eggs can be a source of infection.

Does the virus spread easily from birds to humans?
No. Though more than 100 human cases have occurred in the current outbreak, this is a small number compared with the huge number of birds affected and the numerous associated opportunities for human exposure, especially in areas where backyard flocks are common. It is not presently understood why some people, and not others, become infected following similar exposures.

What about the pandemic risk?
A pandemic can start when three conditions have been met: a new influenza virus subtype emerges; it infects humans, causing serious illness; and it spreads easily and sustainably among humans. The H5N1 virus amply meets the first two conditions: it is a new virus for humans (H5N1 viruses have never circulated widely among people), and it has infected more than 100 humans, killing over half of them. No one will have immunity should an H5N1-like virus emerge.

All prerequisites for the start of a pandemic have therefore been met save one: the establishment of efficient and sustained human-to-human transmission of the virus. The risk that the H5N1 virus will acquire this ability will persist as long as opportunities for human infections occur. These opportunities, in turn, will persist as long as the virus continues to circulate in birds, and this situation could endure for some years to come.

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U nedjelju na jezeru Neusiedler, u graničnom području između Austrije i Mađarske, austrijski je policajac predao mađarskom kolegi tijelo mrtvog labuda, koje je ovaj poslao u Budimpeštu na analizu. Tamo su pak utvrdili da je riječ o u Sloveniji prstenovanom labudu, piše Večernji list. U ponedjeljak je kod Maribora pronađen mrtav labud i poslan na analizu u Ljubljanu. Njemački veterinari su pokupili 25 uginulih pataka i gusaka u jezeru blizu Rajne. Iz Portugala stižu vijesti o desecima pronađenih mrtvih gusaka, kormorana, galebova, iz Malte javljaju slično. Egipatske su vlasti na kairskom aerodromu uništile 2,5 tona pačjih proizvoda iz Francuske. Švicarska, Francuska, Slovenija, Srbija, proglašavaju zabranu držanja peradi na otvorenome, Bugarska zabranjuje uvoz peradi iz Makedonije, u Grčkoj stižu mrtve ptice na analizu, u londonskom Toweru zatvaraju gavrane u kaveze. Dojave o mrtvim pticama stižu iz Libanona, s Kavkaza, sjevera Italije, Albanije, Irske, Skandinavije, opet iz Rusije.


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Ne bih rekla da je ova sve bas propagadna i mislim da je mnogo ozbiljnije nego sto ti mislis. Pa zar divlje i domace ptice nisu vec obolile, zar virus vec nije mutirao i presao na 100 ljudi? Nije ovo samo teorija, sve se ovo upravo desava.


Dove, nemam snage da citam sad na eng (imala ispit :P )..
Virus H5N1 avijarne influence prvenstveno je patogen za divlje ptice, preko kojih mogu da obole i domace ptice, perad i slicno.
DA bi presao na ljude postoji vrlooo minimalna mogucnost,ali je teorijski moguca, ovo sto je u JI Aziji, tih 65 slucajeva, ali uglavnom zabiljezena u siromasnim zemljama sa minimumom higijensko-epidemioloskih uslova zivota. A osim toga u JI Aziji haraju i mnoge druge zaraze, svake sekunde neko umire od neke zarazne bolesti...
I da bi covjek obolio virus treb da predje sa te oboljele ptice. A da bi presla sa covjeka na covjeka virus mora da mutira!!
A jedenjem piletine se ne moze zaraziti (sto nas narod koristi kao prevenciju , pa izbjegava pilece meso koje svakodnevno se kontrolise na 3 mjesta dok ne dodje na neciji tanjir , i to je tako ne samo sad, vec oduvijek )

Idalje mislim da pandemije u smislu obolijevanja ljudi nece biti.

I josh nesto, uporno se prica o eutanaziji peradi tamo gdje su pronadjene uginule ptice.

Eutanazija se vrsi nad organizmom koji je bolestan,umiruci, na izdahu, vec obolio. A ta perad nije oboljela!!! dakle vrsi se sistematsko klanje peradi u smislu prevencije :-? E o tome govorim, o toj masovnom manipualciji, za koju nema potrebe, a ono sto bi trebalo prevenirati, mozda se ne radi u dovoljnoj mjeri.
E iz tog ralzoga mislim da su tu "vise sile" upetljale prste i gledaju svoje interese...zalosno...

Nisam protiv prevencije, ali smatram da treba razgraniciti pricu.


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Evo i ovdje je provedena neka anketa medju ljudima, da li ce i dalje da jedu piletinu,pa je skoro 70 % izjavilo da hoce.
A sto se mene tice,sinoc sam stukao jedno pilence...

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Virus H5N1 potvrđen i u BiH


Dodatne pretrage uzoraka tkiva labudova uginulih kod Jajca, koje su obavljene u laboratoriju Weybridge, potvrdile su da su te ptice bile prenositelji smrtonosnog virusa ptičje gripe.


To je u ponedjeljak potvrdio ravnatelj Ureda za veterinarstvo Bosne i Hercegovine Jozo Bagarić nakon što su rezultati testiranja stigli iz Velike Britanije.

U izjavi koju je prenijela Televizija Federacije BiH, Bagarić je rekao da su u Sarajevo stigle potvrde da je u tkivima labudova pronađen virus H5N1.

Dva labuda uginula su na Plivskom jezeru prije dva tjedna, a nakon toga je eutanazirano cijelo njihovo jato.

Odmah nakon toga Ured za veterinarstvo BiH naložio je uništavanje sve peradi u krugu promjera od tri kilometra od mjesta uginuća labudova te poduzimanje mjera dekontaminacije tla i vode.

Poduzete su i mjere nadzora područja u krugu od 21 kilometar od Plivskog jezera a osobe koje su bile u kontaktu sa zaraženim labudovima stavljene su pod liječnički nadzor.

Liječnički timovi ni kod koga među njima do sada nisu otkrili simptome pojave bolesti.

BiH je u međuvremenu uvezla i oko tri tisuće doza lijeka Tamiflu te osigurala serum za cijepljenje najugroženijih dijelova stanovništva.

Predstavnici vlasti BiH tvrde da u cijelosti nadziru situaciju te da nije bilo novih sumnjivih slučajeva koji bi ukazali na moguće širenje ptičje gripe u toj zemlji.


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Da je pticji grip i dalje realna opasnost pogledajte na:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_22ZaAWSTc


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Picji grip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzXvYadFoVU

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Clanak o pticjem gripu na http://www.stetoskop.info/Pticji-grip-A ... ckness.htm


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