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Autoru:  supermanijak [ 23 Nov 2011, 18:47 ]
Tema posta:  nece da mi prepozna RAM
imam neki stari racunar, star je negdje oko 10 god.
ipak ga koristim. u njemu imam dve plocice ram-a. jedna od 128mb druga od 256mb.
i uporno mi pokazuje da imam samo 256mb.
neki dan kupim jednu plocicu od 512mb. i stavim nju i ovu od 256mb. i opet ista stvar. prepozna samo 256mb.
u cemu je problem??
da nije do bios-a?? ja kontam nesto da je do bios-a i da ga flashujem.
Autoru:  BSE [ 23 Nov 2011, 18:49 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
jesi probao rotirati te plocice za mjesta? da li onda dolazi do promjene u ocitavanju memorije? probaj ovu od 256 izbaciti i umjesto nje ubaciti onu od 128 cisto da vidis da nije problem plocica rama, a ne ploca
Autoru:  danijell [ 23 Nov 2011, 18:59 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
A šta kaže računar kada staviš samo tu od 512mb?
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 23 Nov 2011, 19:53 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
@BSE probao sam sve mogucnosti. uvijek prepozna samo 256 MB
a kad sam stavio samo onu plocicu od 512MB upali se kompjuter, ali sve koci.
trza. krenem misem samo trza i koci. ne mozes nista raditi
Autoru:  STRATOKASTEL [ 23 Nov 2011, 20:50 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
Imao sam davno takav problem, vjerovatno nije ista frekvencija RAM pločica, pa prepoznaje samo jednu vrstu, a što se tiče ove najnovije, matična ploča možda (vjerovatno) nema podršku za istu.
Preporučio bih da izvadiš sve te pločice i uporediš šta na njima piše, možda nadođeš na nešto.
Autoru:  Iggy_PoP [ 23 Nov 2011, 21:01 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
1)S obzirom da je star kompjuter dosta, moguće da ploča ima kombinaciju ddr i sd rama, pa da isključimo i ovu opciju: Da nisi pokušao kombinovati dve "vrste"?
2)Da nemaš možda integrisanu grafičku na toj ploči, i pritom aktivnu, koja ti vuče ram??
3)Izvadi sve module memorije i dobro usisaj prašinu iz ležišta za memoriju, meni je nerijetko znalo prouzrokovati probleme sa RAM-om

A čekaj, da li bios očita 512mb memorije? I testiraj memtest-om 512-ku iz biosa. I još probaj sa resetovanjem cmos-a (skini jumper, sačekaj minut, pa ga vrati)
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 23 Nov 2011, 23:42 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
STRATOKASTEL je napisao:
Imao sam davno takav problem, vjerovatno nije ista frekvencija RAM pločica, pa prepoznaje samo jednu vrstu, a što se tiče ove najnovije, matična ploča možda (vjerovatno) nema podršku za istu.
Preporučio bih da izvadiš sve te pločice i uporediš šta na njima piše, možda nadođeš na nešto.


ma ista je frekvencija plocica. 133 mhz. zato sam i kupio plocicu od 512mb


Iggy_PoP je napisao:
1)S obzirom da je star kompjuter dosta, moguće da ploča ima kombinaciju ddr i sd rama, pa da isključimo i ovu opciju: Da nisi pokušao kombinovati dve "vrste"?
2)Da nemaš možda integrisanu grafičku na toj ploči, i pritom aktivnu, koja ti vuče ram??
3)Izvadi sve module memorije i dobro usisaj prašinu iz ležišta za memoriju, meni je nerijetko znalo prouzrokovati probleme sa RAM-om

A čekaj, da li bios očita 512mb memorije? I testiraj memtest-om 512-ku iz biosa. I još probaj sa resetovanjem cmos-a (skini jumper, sačekaj minut, pa ga vrati)



ne podrzava maticna ddr ram. star je racunar. skoro 11 godina. integrisana je graficka i nemam drugu. pokusao sam izvaditi bios bateriju ali nije pomoglo. nisam pokusao da testiram memoriju. pokusacu to i resetovanje cmos.

a sta kazete na to da flashujem bios??
Autoru:  goxon [ 24 Nov 2011, 03:52 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
s obzirom da je jako star racunar, bios ces morati update-ovati preko diskete, a to je sada jako rizicno
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 24 Nov 2011, 13:12 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
goxon je napisao:
s obzirom da je jako star racunar, bios ces morati update-ovati preko diskete, a to je sada jako rizicno


vidio sam da se sada bios moze flashovati iz windowsa. da li bih mogao na taj nacin i ja da uradim??
ploca je gigabyte-ova. pogledacu na njihovoj stranici da li se moze sta naci.
Autoru:  goxon [ 24 Nov 2011, 14:56 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
sve je to prilagodjeno novijim racunarima. sumnjam da za tako staru plocu ima update iz Windowsa
Autoru:  danijell [ 24 Nov 2011, 15:19 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
A mogao si i napisati koji je model matične.
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 24 Nov 2011, 16:35 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
danijell je napisao:
A mogao si i napisati koji je model matične.


mislio sam. ali sam zaboravio. a kompjuter mi je u drugom mjestu. nije u BL.
a nisam imao everest ili nesto slicno da vidim koji je model maticne.
znam da je gigabyte. i da je prastara :D
napisacu kad saznam
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 26 Nov 2011, 15:08 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
evo citav izvjestaj everesta pa ako neko zna gdje je problem, neka vice :D



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ako se nesto ne vidi, onda je ovaj spojler ma zahebao stvar :D
Autoru:  StigoStriko [ 26 Nov 2011, 15:19 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
Stavi jednu od 512 ili dve iste memorije po 256.
Vjerovatno su ove dve tvoje u koliziji.
Autoru:  danijell [ 26 Nov 2011, 16:38 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
http://www.gigabyte.com/products/produc ... 47&dl=1#sp

Supports 16/32/64/128/256 MB SDRAM DIMM Module

Znači maksimalno za sistem 512 MB, odnosno dva modula po 256 MB

Najbolje da tu od 512 mb zamjeniš za dva identična modula po 256mb. Ne podržava PC133 nego maksimalno PC100, a ako im se ne poklapaju karakteristike na 100MHz onda ... Radiće memorije PC133 ali na 100 MHz, a koliko vidim za drugi memorijski modul i nema spec za 100MHz.
DIMM2: SpecTek 128 MB PC133 SDRAM (3.0-3-3-6 @ 133 MHz) (2.0-2-2-4 @ 83 MHz)

Mada sam i ovo pronašao, ali ...

Citiraj:
1024MB*

*The GA-6WMMC7 supports up to 1.0 GB total memory. Note that 512MB DIMMs have not been tested at time of production. Although the hardware may support large amounts of memory, you may encounter other limitations in the Operating System or with some hardware support when working with 1GB or more of RAM.
Autoru:  Šejn [ 28 Nov 2011, 09:48 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
Najbolje je da su ramovi iste memorije, ne valja mjesati 256 i 512 itd...
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 28 Nov 2011, 12:40 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
pokusao sam ja i da stavim samo tu plocicu od 512MB i opet nije htio da radi.
tu plocicu od 512mb sam narucio preko ebay-a iz amerike negdje, tako da sad to bas i ne mogu vratiti.
imam module od 128, 256 i 512 mb. kakve prijedloge imate? sta da uradim?
moze li ovo da pomogne?? da zamjenim za ova dva modula
http://www.pik.ba/artikal/1930643/memorija-polovna/
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 19 Dec 2011, 21:40 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
ljudi opet nista. evo stavio sam dve iste memorije od po 256mb i opet pokazuje da ima 256mb
nemam pojma sta je to.
pokusacu sad drugi put da flashujem bios pa sta bude. :D
moze li samo neko da mi objasni kako se to radi??? da ne zajebem sta.
Autoru:  danijell [ 20 Dec 2011, 11:17 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
Da li u BIOS-u prepoznaje dva modula po 256mb? I vidi sa nekim programom, CPU-Z, Speccy, ... da li prepoznaje u Windowsu module po slotovima kao 128MB, ili jedan kao 256MB a drugi ne.
Autoru:  supermanijak [ 20 Dec 2011, 16:39 ]
Tema posta:  Re: nece da mi prepozna RAM
nisam gledao u bios-u, ali mi je everest pokazao da ima dva modula od po 256MB.
pogledacu i bios-u sta kaze. u cemu moze biti problem?
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